"Death before dishonor."

Chronicle Extras

Excerpt from "Comes a Horseman" script
Cut scene from "Revelation 6:8" — find out how Methos left the Horsemen
Interview with Josepha Sherman, author of The Captive Soul, at Ad Astra con in June 1998.
Excerpt from an earlier version of the Endgame script.

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Behind the scenes

[At Duncan's loft.]

Methos: Candygram!

Duncan: Methos, or should I call you Adam?

Methos: Only you and Joe know that I'm Methos the Immortal. To the rest of the world I am still Adam Pierson, mild-mannered Watcher.

Duncan: Well, mi casa es su casa. How's Paris?

Methos: It's a lot quieter since you left. [Sees paint strip samples on table.] Taking up origami?

Duncan: No, I'm just renovating an old house.

Methos: Yeah, it's good to keep busy.

Duncan: So what brings a 5000-year-old man to me?

Methos: Kristin's in town. Just opened a new branch of her agency.

Duncan: So?

Methos: So I thought you should know.

Duncan: Well now I know. Hey, look it's done. Over. History.

Methos: If you say so.

Duncan: You want a coffee?

Methos: Yeah. No, a beer. Lucky you get over things. From what I know, Kristin's not the type anyone forgets.


Methos: You've got a friend, Richie Ryan. He met Kristin yesterday morning.

Duncan: He didn't tell me that.

Methos: Maybe he hasn't got out of bed yet.

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[In Duncan's car.]

Methos: Round one to Kristin.

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[At the dojo.]

Methos: That katana is a lovely piece of art. May I?

[Duncan hesitates.]

Methos: I washed my hands this morning.

[Duncan hands it over.]

Methos: Quite a blade. [Holds katana to Duncan's neck.]

Duncan: Not funny, Methos.

Methos: Not meant to be. Not only are you na´ve, now you are weaponless. How do you live this long? Do you know how many Immortals she's killed? Do you want a list?

Duncan: All right, you made your point.

Methos: Have I? One day she is going to kill you.

Duncan: She's tried already.

Methos: You're better with a blade than her, yes. You're stronger than her, yes. But if you keep letting her walk away, one day she gets lucky and takes your head, yes!

Duncan: Oh, I don't know. Maybe she'll stop to gloat like you. [Knocks Methos over.] You wanna play?

The orginal "Chivalry" script was written without Methos, but writer Gillian Horvath admitted that she pressed for Methos to be written in as a sneaky way of getting Peter Wingfield to North America so he could attend the Gathering convention in October 1995! Gillian thought it would be fun for fans to meet him. (What an understatement.)
In this episode, Peter played Methos with a much harder edge than in "Methos" and "Finale," inspiring the writers to give Methos a darker, more enigmatic slant in the future. After seeing this episode, the writers nicknamed Methos "Agenda Boy."

Methos: Great! You knock me on my bum because I make a bad joke! Very macho. But you keep letting her walk away, without even taking a shot, that is very suicidal.

Duncan: You know what she was to me.

Methos: Yes! And I know what she is! A killer. You treat her like one.


The line in the script is really "knocked me on my ass" but Peter Wingfield used "bum" instead.

[Methos and Duncan sword fight.]

Duncan: Oh, you developed this technique.

Methos: It's working, isn't it?

Duncan: Not for long. [Puts sword to Methos' neck.]

Methos: Whew. [sigh] I got to practice more. New guys come along. New moves.

Duncan: It's called progress. [Still holding sword to his neck.]

Methos: Well then get with it, before Kristin kills you and your friend.

[Richie enters.]

Richie: Hello. I take it this is not for real?

Methos: God forbid.

Duncan: Just making a point.

Methos: [Steps in before Duncan can introduce him as Methos.] Uh, I'm Adam Pierson. You must be Richie Ryan?

Richie: Yes.

Methos: Someone here speaks very highly of you.

Richie: Oh, well, nice to meet you, and thanks very much, Mac. Speaking of which, I've gotta tell you about this woman. She is unbelievable.

Duncan: Her name's Kristin. I know. [Walks away.]

Richie: [Goes after Duncan.] You know? How do you know? Mac? Mac, how do you know?

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[At Duncan's loft.]

Duncan: I'm sorry, Richie. I'm your friend. I wanted you to know where you stand

Richie: You're wrong about her, Mac. She's not like that. She's a very special woman. She's beautiful. She's smart. She's generous.

Duncan: That's how it starts. She'll end up trying to kill you.

Richie: No way, Mac. Not me. We have this thing between us, Mac. It's like an electrical connection. Why can't you understand that?

Methos: They didn't have electricity when he knew her.

Richie: [to Methos] Don't you get sick of him being older and wiser all the time?

Methos: Yeah, I can see that that could get a bit annoying.

Duncan: Richie, I've been there.

Richie: Mac, that's what I'm trying to say. You've been there, you've done that. This is all new to me. You guys didn't work out for each other; that was 300 years ago. Maybe you just weren't right for each other.

Duncan: And she's right for you?

Richie: I don't know. I've only known her a couple of days, but Mac, she blows me away. I really think there's something there. You want me to give that up?

Duncan: Richie, I want you to trust me. Richie, she's not for you.

Richie: You know, sometimes you knowing everything gets to be a real pain in the ass. I'll catch you guys later. [Leaves.]

Duncan: He's not listening to me.

Methos: How could he? She's got him tingling in places he didn't even know he had. Maybe we should just give him the room and let him make his own mistakes.

Duncan: Even if it gets him killed?

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[Painting Duncan's house.]

Duncan: He hasn't listened to a word I said.

Methos: Well that happens. Guess this must be what it's like to have kids.

Duncan: You think so?

Methos: Yeah. You do your best, teach 'em what you know, try and show 'em the right path, and then they just have to get on with it.

Duncan: Yeah, and let 'em make the same idiotic mistakes that you did. I tried to warn him. What else could I do?

Methos: Well, you could tell him the rest of it.


Methos: You let her walk away then; you let her walk away now. I mean, what exactly are you waiting for? You know that she killed Louise Barton because you know what kind of woman she is. If she'd been a man, she'd have been dead 350 years ago. A couple of medieval songwriters come up with the idea of chivalry one rainy day—

Duncan: This isn't about chivalry.

Methos: —and you embrace it as a lifestyle. You live and die by a code of honor that was trendy when you were a kid.

Duncan: Would you rather that I had no code of honor at all?

Methos: I would rather you survived. You put that first.

Duncan: Do you think it's easy killing a woman that you've held in your arms, a woman that you've made love to?

Methos: Take it from me, it's easier than dying. Look at me, MacLeod. I didn't last 5000 years by worrying about anyone but myself.

Amazingly, this fight was done in just one take and was so intense that the end of Methos' sword was nipped off. They stopped the scene immediately because they thought that it was Peter Wingfield's finger that had gone flying! Peter was so into the scene that he actually had to look to see if his finger had got chopped.
Highlander swordmaster F. Braun McAsh had Methos fight with the katana using western techniques because the scripts up to that point had never mentioned Methos ever visiting the Orient.

Duncan: Really? Could have fooled me. [Paints Methos' nose.]

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[At Duncan's loft.]

Richie: This is all nuts! She would have killed me.

Methos: Round two to Kristin. You dump her, and then you turn your back on her?! Talk about the blind leading the visually challenged!

Richie: Thank you.

Duncan: All right. Where is she?

Richie: In her office. You think she's coming after me?

Duncan: No, I think that she's coming after somebody that you care about.

Richie: Maria? Oh God, I gotta go to Maria's. See you guys later.

[Richie leaves. Duncan gets up to go too.]

Methos: Where're you going?

Duncan: Kristin's. Coming? I'm sure it's something you wouldn't want to miss.

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An Adrian Paul ad-lib. When asked why he did it, Adrian said Peter had a nose that needed painting and he just felt like doing it!

[On the beach near Kristin's house.]

Methos: [to Kristin] Pick it up.

Kristin: Who the hell are you?

Methos: A man who was born long before the Age of Chivalry. Pick it up.

[Short sword fight. Methos beheads Kristin.]

Methos: [during the quickening] Someone had to.

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[At Duncan's loft.]

Methos: Hi guys! How're you doing?

Richie: I gotta run. I'll see you later. [Leaves.]

Duncan: He'll get over it.

Methos: She would have kept coming, you know. One day she might have won.

Duncan: I know.

Methos: And still, if you had your chance again, you wouldn't kill her, would you?

Duncan: Probably not.

Methos: Duncan MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod.

Duncan: That's who I am.

Methos: I guess someone has to be. You will get over her too.

Duncan: Will I?

Methos: Mm hm.

Duncan: Did you know Mencius

Methos: Student of Confucius, yeah.

Duncan: "I dislike death, but there are things that I dislike more than death—"

Methos: "—therefore there are occasions when I will not avoid danger." Death before dishonor.

Duncan: For some of us. [Holds up paint strips.] What do you think?

Methos: Get someone in. [Reclines on sofa with beer.]

The move that Methos uses to disarm Kristin is the same move Duncan used to disarm him in the earlier fight in the dojo. It's a subtle way of telling Duncan, "See, I do learn."

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